In response to the comment that has been posted reconciling science with spirituality, I have made a small beginning by making the following observation. Surely it needs further debates and arguments to arrive at the logical conclusion. The Universe must eventually come to a static end state wherein 100% people have evolved and no one is left anymore. Does it finish there when everyone has won? The universe comes to static state very rarely and this process is called ‘the great dissolution’. If any proof is sought for the great dissolution, it is difficult to provide as it happens once in several billions of years. There cannot be any witness to talk about ‘the great dissolution’ as normal or paranormal life span of any living being does not permit the same.
The other significant factor is about 100% evolved souls. This is simply not possible. This can be proved beyond doubt by the attitude of our existing society. Spirituality is a science that talks about the modifications of the mind and this is considered primary. The modification or evolution of mind leads to higher level of consciousness. Consciousness is misunderstood as merely awareness. In fact it is the combination of awareness, knowledge and infinite energy field. The lower level of consciousness is associated with mundane world and the higher level of consciousness transcends all the physical realms. The transformation of consciousness takes place only in one in a million or so. We are all witness to this situation as we come across conflicts and confrontation everywhere. If consciousness happens to undergo significant changes in many people, we will not be witnessing this type of enmity and hatred that we are witnessing helplessly today. Therefore, the question of 100% of the living beings getting liberation is ruled out and beyond any comprehension.
The question of everybody winning does not arise and only the fittest survives. As long as the universe exists it is controlled only by the kinetic energy. The stage will arise only if the kinetic energy is depleted but this is not going to happen, going by our own experience. Assuming that it happens one day, the sun, moon, air, fire, water nothing will exist. Such a situation is called the great dissolution. Or is it that the Brahman (the 100% potential energy then) will yet again shed Kinetic Energy in a process of recreation? Will creatures be born yet again and commit sins and strive for salvation as per some revised schema? Who will be those unfortunate chunks of energy that once having reached the pinnacle get thrown out yet again? Or will these be treated as fresh entities (souls)? Is it just a game that the Brahman keeps playing over and over again to keep itself occupied? Does it therefore run the Universe as a Casino and what causes it to do so? And if that is the way it is, are all these spiritual conquests really worth it? Science has similar conundrums and obscurities.
The theory of the Big Bang and Origin of the Universe are quiet identical to what I said above. There are no definitive answers either group of people has. Science explains the creation in its own way using several jargons and formulae, about which common man may not be aware. In fact science and spirituality co-exists and this fact is neither accepted by spiritual masters nor by the great scientists. Only a common man like you and me are struggling to find a scientific explanation and interpretation to the spirituality. The spirituality could not be effectively explained scientifically as it deals with subtle matter. Though science also deals with subtle matters, the effect of subtle nature of the matter is realised or felt during experiments. For example if two portions of hydrogen is mixed with one portion of oxygen (H2O) both these gases being subtle in nature, the end result water becomes gross. Such experiments are not possible in spirituality because the progress in spirituality is only from gross to subtle, subtler and subtlest. This progress mainly depends upon the transformation and transgression of consciousness from the gross level to the subtlest level.
This theory cannot be disputed, as we always stand associated with the lower level of consciousness, always seeking material comforts. The human brain is considered to be the complex organism and the mind that uses this complex organism for its survival and modifications is still more complex as the mind is subtle and the brain is gross in nature. The potential energy of the Brahman and the kinetic energy of the Shakthi are always interdependent, though the latter was created by the former. Potential energy alone cannot function independently, like the electricity cannot function without positive and negative nodes. When we believe in the electricity, we have to believe the energy of the Brahman and the kinetic energy of Shakthi. Shiva, Shakthi, Jesus, Allah are the names that we have chosen to give to these energies to suit our convenience. Karma is the net result of one’s actions. It is like your bank balance. It fluctuates widely and if the effect of karma is not fully realized in this birth it is carried over to the next births and the soul has no option except to undergo the enjoyment or miseries depending upon its karmic quality.
The Brahman cannot play around as he cannot function independently. Further he cannot function as he is only a static energy, but simply witnesses the happenings around him. The quality of this static energy is that it never undergoes modifications or changes from its original form. When a soul has experienced and exhausted all its balance, it ceases to be under the control of the kinetic energy and severs its connection with it to merge with the static energy. Even if billions and billions of such souls merge with the Brahman or the static energy, it does not undergo even a minute change. This can be compared to an ocean. In spite of torrential rains and floods, the ocean is able to receive any amount of water without itself undergoing any change. When we are able to believe this phenomenon, we have to believe the concept of soul and Spirit. The reason for explaining spirituality in bits and pieces is to create a basic awareness about the Spirit and the spirituality. If one is not able to fully realize the spirituality in this birth, at least in the next birth he begins from where he had left in the previous birth. The only good thing I found more favorable with Science is that the limitations are universally acknowledged whereas Spiritual teachers have never clearly accepted that there is an upper limit to what can be learnt.
Once again the answers must come from the Spiritual community for I presume it’s got a greater reach and that the Brahman can never be replicated in a laboratory or confined to a test tube? This point is to be accepted in totality as the spirituality is made as a commercial venture. The upper limit of spirituality is only infinity. Spirituality cannot be sold or bought across a counter. The peoples are moving towards spirituality because of their mundane life, miseries, sufferings, wanting and all that is related to material prosperity. More than anything, the principal theory of spirituality is faith and belief. Even the great scientists offer prayers before launching their projects. It is their faith that make them to invoke supra normal powers. Otherwise, why a scientist, who always depends upon confirmations and conclusions should offer a prayer to someone who is extremely subtle in nature? Secondly, the spirituality has been wrongly explained that one should forego comforts; one should refrain from marital bliss, etc. These thoughts are simply ridiculous.
Spirituality needs only two things. The primary factor is the capacity of the mind to refine itself. As long as the mind is willing to be under your control, nothing prevents your body to reap the benefits of your past karmas. If on the contrary, the mind keeps you under its control, your mind never undergoes refinement and loses its shine and ultimately rots. Second factor is flexibility of the body to realize the spiritual energy. Once the spiritual energy (the power of Nature) is able to penetrate into your body, it does not allow your mind to decay. But an initial attempt is necessary on your part. Unless a scientist has basic infrastructure, he cannot proceed with his experiments. In the same way we also need some basic infrastructure like mind and body to perform spiritual experiments. The success or failure of the experiments, both in the case of a scientist and a spiritual seeker purely depends upon one’s own efforts. When I said we must reconcile Science and Spirituality, what I actually meant was that spiritual people must strive to provide logical answers to the end state questions like the one above and not merely stop half way at what has already been documented and debated for centuries. The present discourse has become static.
Most unfortunately, today we have more spiritual masters than the followers. The so called spiritual masters trace the preliminary steps of spirituality only for commercial purposes. The transmission of spirituality should happen between two hearts and two minds. That is why the need for a learned guru has been repeatedly emphasized. Spirituality can be taught by someone who has realized the Brahman by himself. Without thoroughly knowing the subject you cannot teach that subject. Even if you teach, if someone raises a difficult question, you may not be able answer. Same is the case with spirituality. When you are not aware of what you are teaching, how can you explain it logically? In recent times it has been proved that time and space are merely the projections of human consciousness. This discourse will never become static and will move forward from here with better participation and interpretation. We will come out with more detailed discussions on this issue later.
voyager
November 06, 2009 12:08 AM
Thankyou for taking up the cause and for your effort in trying to explain the mundane questions which often bog down common people like me.
Though I read your words quite regularly, I regret being unable to give you a feedback in as quick a timeframe. Its partly because of the daily grind and partly owing to the fact that it takes time to digest the contents in a manner that does justice to the tremendous effort you put in.
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voyager
December 06, 2009 05:00 AM
I quote something derived from the Iliad by Homer...
"Can I tell you a secret, something they don't teach you in your temple? The Gods envy us because we are mortal; because any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we are doomed".
Besides curiosity, is not the fear of being reborn the sole reason behind spiritual quests? What else besides these can be the reason that should motivate us?
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